How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

How was cancer treatment different in the US and the UK?

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Who are the actual "science deniers": people who wait until vaccines are proven effective, or people who believe that there are more than two genders?

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

What is the most heartbreaking thing your child has told you?

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

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then who is there to know what happens without?

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Why are conservatives banning liberal books? Why are conservatives so offended by the teaching of racism and other topics?

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

What might be the social consequences of an ethnic as opposed to a civic conception of the nation?

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

NOW…

Sain (a barber)

Do interviewers discriminate against a candidate if he or she is overweight (assuming physical fitness is NOT part of the job requirements)?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Does the National Health Service (NHS) in the United Kingdom diagnose rare conditions? If so, does it provide treatment for them as well?

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

What happened to the American Russell Bentley from Texas that was fighting for the pro-Russian commies?

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Which current F1 drivers should switch teams based on historical patterns?

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

What are some hard truths that MAGA needs to hear?

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

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ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Kabir (a weaver)

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Now here in this verse

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

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ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

CONCLUSION:

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

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ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

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Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

I am like a fish out of water,

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

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ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.